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Posted 31 March 2008 - 11:56 AM
If people really want to they can afford the fees, I come from a poor working class background and NO way could my family pay the fees for drama school so I set up a charity organised events and worked every hour I could in dead end jobs to raise the £40 000 needed to get me through - if you really do want to do it you can achieve it I really don't buy the "can't afford it" argument.
Having said all that i'm not saying that untrained people can't be talented I have worked with and seen people with no formal training being OUTSTANDING and putting my abilities to shame.
My feeling is that the best person for the job should get the job, but as seems to be the case in these competitions the best person for the job tends to be trained!!!
Posted 31 March 2008 - 12:10 PM
I'd agree that some schools can turn out rather less individuality than they should. I've seen some people who play exactly the same character no matter what role they're in: having been trained in a particular way they apply the same techniques to every job they get with the result that there's nothing to differentiate the parts they play apart from the words they speak.
It's no coincidence that my four favourite actresses have all had unconventional routes to musical theatre: one of them quit her training half way through after being offered a role, two more trained in ballet alone but then went into musicals and worked their way up from the ensemble to leading roles, and the fourth actually worked as a ballerina before switching to musical theatre and turning out to have the loveliest voice I've ever heard. It gave all of them great individuality in their performances, and that's why I find them so interesting to watch even though they may not always be as technically accomplished as I'd like.
It isn't, and I've seen some people who have become professionals as a result of going full-time after years of amateur work. But the fact remains that to do well they need experience. Most people get that experience through training, some get it through a couple of dozen roles in amateur productions, but nobody gets that experience simply by dreaming about it. The idea that someone can step up on stage and be an instant star doesn't work outside of fiction unless you set your standards ridiculously low.
In anything but the most unskilled jobs experience is vital, and when it comes to acting I could count the number of good lead performances I've seen from people who are appearing on stage for the first time on the fingers of one foot.
Posted 31 March 2008 - 12:16 PM
Posted 31 March 2008 - 12:20 PM
I like Barry Humphries on the panel, he will be very funny and is a good replacement for Zoe Tyler who had got too big for her boots. John Barrowman has always seemed a fairly regular guy without a huge ego, always having time for fans and other performers. As he does Dr Who/Torchwood and other projects for the BBC then assume he will be on any of these shows as much as Grahm Norton will be due to his BBC contract.
Posted 31 March 2008 - 01:58 PM
You're right, of course, and I didn't want to give the impression I think that all trained actors are lifeless clones. It's just a few who fall back on the same techniques for every role.
Similarly, not all people who arrive by an unusual route are good. Although I've seen several fantastic performances from people who came to musical theatre from ballet, I've also seen many ballet-trained ensemble dancers who, while fabulous as ensemble dancers, should never be allowed near a lead role because they have no talent for acting at all.
Posted 31 March 2008 - 02:19 PM
Posted 31 March 2008 - 03:02 PM
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should
Posted 31 March 2008 - 10:39 PM
I really believe that's why she was in the bottom 2. She'd been hyped up hugley and didn't deliver.
In regards to her husky jazzy vocal quality, I think she is just that. A jazz singer. Would probably be very sucessful in Ronnie Scotts, but not 8 shows a week in frankly quite a challenging role. Bare in mind she lost her voice during Nancy school. And was off both times i saw Rent. Could the 'professional' really hack it?
Posted 01 April 2008 - 07:30 AM
They really should sack the hairdresser immediately. Such hideous creations only made the girls look like something out of a Hammer horror film, especially with those horrid Bride of Frankenstein body mikes they are lumbered with.
Thank goodness we are spared the no-talent celebs who used to be brought on to perform while the votes were being counted.
I am beginning to wonder if there is any BBC programme that does not feature John Barrowman.
It is a great idea to have Barry Humphries as one of the judges, but I would rather have had Dame Edna.
Posted 01 April 2008 - 09:50 AM
I think the odds are in favour of a trained actress getting the part as has happened in the previous 2 shows!
Guess we'll just have to wait and see!
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