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#621 DanielWhit

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 10:00 PM

View PostTitan, on 23 August 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

It's rare for a flop show to then tour. And if they downsize it they will take away the one aspect of the show that the general consensus is very positive on.

I wouldn't call it a "flop show" - it would have ran for nigh on 18 months. The last show that I can recall which did a similar run was Sister Act (both of which were born from films which, coincidentally, featured Whoopi Goldberg), that toured fairly successfully in the last year.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 10:39 PM

I'd love to see this tour, but personally, I don't know if I would go to see it again now, after seeing the 'original' cast 3 times (except I got a different Oda Mae each time).
I'd love to see Andrew and Sharon on tour, and it'd be brilliant if Richard came back to it, but I'm not convinced it'll happen. And I'm guessing Caissie won't be coming back over to the UK.  
I just think it might spoil the whole memory for me if I saw different people in the lead roles. :/

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 11:11 PM

View PostDanielWhit, on 23 August 2012 - 10:00 PM, said:



I wouldn't call it a "flop show" - it would have ran for nigh on 18 months. The last show that I can recall which did a similar run was Sister Act (both of which were born from films which, coincidentally, featured Whoopi Goldberg), that toured fairly successfully in the last year.

I adore this musical but it is a flop. Another one of my beloved 18 month flops sti hasn't toured yet (Love Never Dies). But I'm hoping that and The Wizard of Oz do (as well as GHOST of course)

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:00 PM

How do you gauge a flop?  Monkee Business was a flop without question being pulled whilst on tour before it even reached its planned West End residency at the Savoy.  Was Betty Blue Eyes a flop?

Ghost WILL tour next year, that I am certain of and do very well in the regions.  On the subject of scaling down the set etc, this will have to be done to a certain extent I think as to the best of my knowledge there are not many houses that can accommodate the power consumption required to operate the set.  I have complete faith in the production team from Ghost to get this right and not detract from the overall visual feast that the show is.
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FEBRUARY: Priscilla (Mcr Opera House), Jethro (Lowry), Guinness World Records (Lowry), Peacock & Gamble (Lowry)
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:28 PM

A show is deemed a flop if it loses it's money. Sunset blvd, ran for years, still closed a flop  yes Betty was a flop

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 01:29 PM

View PostTitan, on 24 August 2012 - 01:28 PM, said:

A show is deemed a flop if it loses it's money. Sunset blvd, ran for years, still closed a flop  yes Betty was a flop

Exactly. Ghost is a flop. A show can run for ten years, but it it doesn't break even, it's a flop.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 07:23 PM

View PostABowlerHat, on 24 August 2012 - 01:29 PM, said:

Exactly. Ghost is a flop. A show can run for ten years, but it it doesn't break even, it's a flop.

Do we know its not broken even in the UK  though?  Its been pretty  full when I have been and ATG staff comments  tell me its selling Ok.  Its perfectly possible that  its closing because the US show is costing and not selling and the producers have lost interest - or they want to finish  while they  are ahead in an accelerating recession  - or because almost everything is losing money at the moment -  or because someone thinks that Viva Forever will sell more .It could be a flop, or a success dragged down by a flop elsewhere, or someone' s   marginal decision in favour of another prospect.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 10:21 PM

I would imagine the show has extremely high running costs - so I'd be surprised if it's broken even.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 07:54 AM

I am sure it will tour, but I don't see how it can tour until late next year as Matthew and Co will be in NYC doing Matilda until about April... so then they'll have to start re-staging/designing/redirecting the production after that.  

Poor Matthew's not had a chance to work on anything but these two shows in the last couple of years! haha
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Posted 25 August 2012 - 02:23 PM

View PostMusicalTalk, on 25 August 2012 - 07:54 AM, said:

I am sure it will tour, but I don't see how it can tour until late next year as Matthew and Co will be in NYC doing Matilda until about April... so then they'll have to start re-staging/designing/redirecting the production after that.  

Not all tours are re-directed by the original creative team... The Mary Poppins tour was re-directed by an associate, and I'm pretty sure Legally Blonde and Sister Act have also been re-directed by associates.

I think this would be a pretty easy show to tour, the set can't be much different as the design is dictated by the final illusion. Certain moving elements could be cut to make this a pretty easy show to tour.




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