Final 3 Olivers
Posted 22 May 2008 - 01:49 PM
Posted 22 May 2008 - 02:38 PM
I'm not sure if you are joking. What about the oral sex references?
You cannot assume that other people's 10 and 11 year olds are going to have the maturity to understand the satire. You could take your own kids, but it would be wrong to take other people' kids. Like letting a bunch of kids watch an 18 rated film when they are 10, because they're at your house. It's just wrong. Anyway I stand by my comment that the BBC wouldn't have taken them to see the show, unlikely anyway. I was just probing the autheticity of the spoiler (who I happen to believe) wondering what the boys were doing at the Noel Coward theatre because I was intrigued, bored, putting off doing any work.
Sorry to rant if you were joking.
Posted 22 May 2008 - 02:53 PM
Posted 22 May 2008 - 03:42 PM
I'm not saying it would be shocking, I'm just saying it's unlikely.
Have you seen Avenue Q, Armadillo?
The fact is 'Oliver' was first produced as a family show in the 1960's while 'Avenue Q' is a deliberately satirical piece of theatre definitely aimed at an adult audience in the 21st century.
We can go into the sexual politics of wrapping domestic violence and street crime up in hummable tunes if you like. It's a whole other issue.
In general I find the idea of children being exposed to scenes of violence in the media much more offensive than them seeing things with an inappropriate sexual content but I do not think that you can make a sensible comparison in this case!!
Posted 23 May 2008 - 02:06 PM
Posted 23 May 2008 - 02:07 PM
Posted 23 May 2008 - 02:11 PM
It's called acting. You don't need to be a rape victim to play the part convincingly. The above statement shows the person is not in the profession. Having HEARD of something or having actually seen/witnessed it, is a totally different ballgame.
Posted 24 May 2008 - 07:05 PM
Posted 24 May 2008 - 07:36 PM
I agree, although I don't mind Laurence being chosen as one of the 3 because I thin khe has a really beautiful voice. The one I'm most upset about is Chester - he looked so upset during the performances and I think he genuinely deserved it.
Having said that I can understand why CM picked the boys he did. Laurence has a lovely voice, Gwion has the awww factor and Harry is reliable because he's done it all before in Chitty. But what annoyed me was the way in which CM said (during the task) something along the lines of "we've found our three Olivers and I'm sure we all know who they are", which I felt suggested that those three boys had been stand-outs for the role from the beginning which I disagree with.
Posted 25 May 2008 - 07:33 AM
ALW said that, not CM! But I agree with you... I like the Olivers who have been chosen, but I also liked the other Olivers in the final which could also be chosen as Oliver and I'm sure they would have been as good as the winning Olivers... imho the three boys had not been stand-outs, all eight of them were actually really really outstanding! I hope we will see the others soon on stage as well, but there aren't many musicals with children currently playing, are they? Chitty closed, Whistle closed, Mary Poppins closed...
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