Jodie Is Going To Win...guarenteed
Posted 26 May 2008 - 01:52 PM
Posted 26 May 2008 - 02:55 PM
I dont actually know anyone who works on the show but was passing on info from someone else who is a friend of a friend of a friend etc who might have insider knowledge. I didnt believe what I had heard until Rachel and Sam were in the bottom 2. I also know who goes in the apprentice tomorrow night. These things have a habit of leaking out.
Posted 26 May 2008 - 03:06 PM
It was me who said I had liked Jodie since the beginning, and I'm willing to defend the comment again. As you say, it's a popularity contest, but it always is with these things. I'n not saying whether that's right or wrong for this process, but I agree that it's not a great thing for casting in general. My feeling is, whether you like it or not, if you're going to watch and enjoy the show, you have to play along with it. This clearly isn't the most efficient or foolproof way of casting, but it raises the profile of the production immeasurably. However, I would say that charisma is incredibly important in leading actors/actresses and is almost impossible to learn. People like Rachel and Francesca were very able, but rather uncharismatic, wheras I (and I assume many others) instantly warmed to Jodie.
And above all that, I actually think Jodie has consistently performed well on the shows. If this were a true talent show, I'm sure Rachel would be in the final too, but it isn't, she's not, and if you don't like that then it's not the show for you.
Posted 26 May 2008 - 03:14 PM
Posted 26 May 2008 - 04:10 PM
But I do find this whole "fan" thing incredibly disheartening. I don't have any problem with Jodie winning and playing Nancy. You didn't have to defend her either. I have a problem with the process with its inherent flaw that the actual songs from the role are never heard! And I have a problem with the fact that the huge majority of the general public are not competent in terms of their understanding of the requirements involved. The public "warmed" to Paul Potts, a third rate failed opera singer who wasn't even close to good enough to have been successful on the professional operatic stage the conventional way. That the public "warm" to someone is really NOT automatically a genuine reflection of either their ability or charisma. And while I have no perception that Jodie is any equivalent of Paul Potts, the same essential impetus is at work. And it is too much about sentimentality.
Posted 26 May 2008 - 04:32 PM
It's unfortunate that you didn't come on here for an english lesson.....or to widen your vocabulary for that matter!
Posted 26 May 2008 - 08:59 PM
If i remember rightly,this thread is about Jodie winning the show?
Posted 26 May 2008 - 09:08 PM
Oh this forum is bitchy. I like good grammar and spelling but I only insist on it in as appropriate not in a blooming forum. I know that the standard of English skills of UK public has dropped over the last 15 years. However, I have also learned that good grammar and spelling does not indicate good brain function.............
Posted 26 May 2008 - 09:18 PM
I was thinking the same..I don't understand how someone can comment on spelling and grammar in a forum! To me its not important in a forum at all..
Posted 26 May 2008 - 11:44 PM
I'm sorry if it sounded like an attack. It wasn't meant that way, and wasn't directed at you in particular. I tried to reword it about four times and that seemed the least harsh way. What I was trying to convey was that I think its pointless people getting really worked up about this, when it's very easy to avoid. Personally, I think over the three series it has become more and more manipulative and much as I'm enjoying it, I'm not sure I'd do it next time (if there is a next time).
Again, I think we're on the same wavelength here. As you say, comparing Jodie to Paul Potts is slightly unfair (partly because I think Joe Bloggs knows even less about opera than musical theatre, and very few know very much about either - I certainly don't claim to be a casting director). I would hope that the BBC panel (ALW in particular) wouldn't allow any girl into the final 12 unless they believed that, come December, she could do this thing really well, but considering they seem to be constantly telling people that they're "not quite ready for this yet" it does seem that there is a disaster waiting to happen!
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