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blackoutpete

Member Since 23 Apr 2013
Offline Last Active Jun 04 2013 12:11 PM
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#265938 Desperately Seeking The Exit's Questionable Ad Campaign

Posted richard2711 on 19 May 2013 - 10:39 PM

I was there today and thought it was amazing. You are hilarious and it was so interesting to hear what happened with the show. Hearing what happened in Tokyo, I really hope you find a way to bring back the show you actually wanted to make. I didn't come to London anywhere near as much as I do now back then so I missed the show even though I read about it and wanted to see it. Great Q&A too! :)


#265075 Desperately Seeking The Exit's Questionable Ad Campaign

Posted Matthew Winn on 11 May 2013 - 10:12 AM

View Postblackoutpete, on 11 May 2013 - 07:29 AM, said:

My apologies to all whose time I wasted. : (

In a few thousand million years the sun will swell up and everything humanity has achieved on Earth will be reduced to isolated atoms drifting through space. In that context, everything we do is a waste of time. But from a more parochial point of view this thread has been interesting enough to run into three pages in as many days, and we always like to hear from people about their own shows.


#265062 Desperately Seeking The Exit's Questionable Ad Campaign

Posted Matthew Winn on 11 May 2013 - 05:12 AM

View Postvertigo1, on 10 May 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:

Are you kidding me people? The man has posted some fun images on his site to support a show he has been working 24hrs a day for well over a year to promote and the little nazi police on here do nothing but bash him and throw some copied text about law at him?

Are you aware that is it actually a criminal offence to pretend to be a consumer when promoting a product or service in which you have an interest, with a fine up to £5000 on summary conviction or a fine plus up to two years imprisonment on indictment?

It's not a problem when someone parodies someone else's advertising. It is a problem when they draw attention to it without owning up to what they're doing. Fortunately for everyone involved it's all in the open now so the matter has become a non-issue, but that doesn't mean there wasn't a problem in the first place.


#265059 Desperately Seeking The Exit's Questionable Ad Campaign

Posted rodney72a on 11 May 2013 - 12:23 AM

And they say it's the Americans who don't get irony.


#265034 Desperately Seeking The Exit's Questionable Ad Campaign

Posted xanderl on 10 May 2013 - 06:13 PM

Look on the bright side, all this nonsense will give you great material for a follow up show :P


#265000 Desperately Seeking The Exit's Questionable Ad Campaign

Posted freckles on 10 May 2013 - 11:54 AM

I have no involvement with the show but can appreciate humour & parody when I see it. Which is the whole point of this show & I think some people need to lighten up a bit...

I'm sure blackoutpete meant no harm, all the best with the show.

(We're all going to be quoted in it now, right?!)


#264980 Desperately Seeking The Exit's Questionable Ad Campaign

Posted vertigo1 on 10 May 2013 - 09:07 AM

Don't you dare delete this thread.
Are you kidding me people? The man has posted some fun images on his site to support a show he has been working 24hrs a day for well over a year to promote and the little nazi police on here do nothing but bash him and throw some copied text about law at him? Lighten up, it's fun and silly, ON A WEBSITE, it's not his print ad, it's not the images that run in the newspapers with his reviews, he's having some fun.

To the person who said they hope the show closes before it opens, if you knew anything about theatre you would know this show has been a huge hit at the Ed Fringe, New York, Manchester, Hollywood, Australia etc and is now doing great in London (he was on the front page of The Stage and inside the Telegraph......I presume you read?). And what a nasty thing to say that you hope it closes. Good old theatre fans supporting the industry we love.

The advertising for this show is clear to see around London, he's just had a bit of fun with these 2 online, chill the hell out. He's only done what Evil Dead and Divine Sister did.

How about instead of moaning you lighten the hell up and support theatre, this is a brave and very funny show that he has worked non stop most of the time alone to turn in to a success, he does not just sit behind a laptop and shake his finger at other people.




#264983 Desperately Seeking The Exit's Questionable Ad Campaign

Posted Kathryn2 on 10 May 2013 - 09:47 AM

View Postblackoutpete, on 10 May 2013 - 07:51 AM, said:

Thanks for all the feedback, fellow theatre-lovers. I was totes unaware that activity like this on this board was frowned upon. Is there any way to delete the thread, so as not to offend?

You don't have to delete the thread now that you've made your involvement clear. You can promote away, as long as you do so without misleading peope.

Your first couple of posts were misleading, hence the rather disgruntled responses from one or two people.

Edit: See, now I'm wondering what Vertigo1's involvement with you/ this show is. That's the result of starting the thread the way you did - it's always positive or defensive comments of the material that end up lacking credibility.

Oh, and Vertigo1, I was absolutely intending to give useful advice about UK copyright law. It's no skin off my nose if Peter Marino gets sued.


#264959 Desperately Seeking The Exit's Questionable Ad Campaign

Posted Seriously on 10 May 2013 - 05:43 AM

View Postblackoutpete, on 09 May 2013 - 07:19 AM, said:

Actually, the ad campaign for Exit has been the same for the past year (which you can see at the website www.SeekingTheExit.com). These two poster designs were meant as a spoof of hit shows. Americans like to spoof things. I am American. But, thanks for wishing that my show closes! Comments like those from chat board "theatre-lovers" like yourself are exactly what I talk about in the show. Perhaps you should see it. You may just be surprised. : )

Perhaps I should see it?

So you wrote a musical based on a film plot that was already in existence.... you decided to use songs which already belonged to another artist.... you got terrible reviews... so you wrote a show based on those terrible reviews and the rehearsal period.... you steal someone else's advertising campaign and call it "spoof".... and you couldn't even be bothered to come up with an original title for your show as you've just used Charles Spencer's words.  You even use Madonna's "Get into the groove" in your advert and photographs other people took of her, when you say the show isn't using her music!

It just seems a bit odd that every page of your website has "Copyright © Peter Michael Marino - 2013 All Rights Reserved" plastered on them, when you don't seem to mind using other people's work!


#264931 Desperately Seeking The Exit's Questionable Ad Campaign

Posted Kathryn2 on 09 May 2013 - 09:01 PM

View Postblackoutpete, on 08 May 2013 - 01:27 PM, said:

Even if more than 50% of the image is altered?

Uk copyright law is different from US copyright law - there is curently no exception for parody.

http://www.swanturto...px#.UYwNdcqtaO4

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If you do copy, for infringement to take place, you must copy at least a “substantial part” of the original work. Whether or not what you have copied is “substantial” is a qualitative, not quantitative, test. If what you have copied is an original and important part of the first work, copying is likely to be considered substantial.

Copying a substantial part of an original work is difficult to avoid for many parodists. It is often essential, for the parody to be understood, that the original work is easy to identify. Currently these people have to seek and pay for licences.

I'd say that you've copied a substantial part of both of those posters, and that they are technically infringing. Of course, the copyright holders of the original may not decide to sue you - they're unlikely to be seen very widely - but they could if they wanted to.

Oh, and a word to the wise - posting on this board to promote a show without declaring your involvement with it is frowned on by  the regulars here. We've had positive 'reviews' that turned out to be posted by people working for the venue or producers before now. You will get a hostile reaction if people suspect you're using this board in a less-than-honest way.


#264924 Desperately Seeking The Exit's Questionable Ad Campaign

Posted Old Man of theatre on 09 May 2013 - 06:55 PM

I'm coming to see it Sunday, v excited.


#264876 Desperately Seeking The Exit's Questionable Ad Campaign

Posted Catqc on 09 May 2013 - 09:06 AM

Blackoutpete, presumably you posted that link to find out what people thought, and thats what people think.


#264875 Desperately Seeking The Exit's Questionable Ad Campaign

Posted Steve10086 on 09 May 2013 - 08:26 AM

View Postblackoutpete, on 08 May 2013 - 01:14 PM, said:

This is either the best or worst idea ever.

And this is *your* show?  I assumed the above post was from a member of the public, but posting that about your own ads is a bit... weird is the best word I can find!


#263036 Desperately Seeking Feedback

Posted paplazaroo on 24 April 2013 - 10:21 AM

Your show is great Pete, I'd recommend anyone interested in theatre to check it out for an honest look behind the curtain


#262033 What Are Your Favourite Musical Flops? Any Worth A Reinterpretation?

Posted paplazaroo on 14 April 2013 - 11:33 PM

All bobs women at the arts theatre was a collosal flop soon after Susan. Pete's show is brilliant by the way and well worth seeing for a fascinating view in to the west end. I'm not affiliated with him I just saw it in Edinburgh for free and was really happy about that!

Flops I'm interested in - Lestat, the pirate queen, dance of the vampires, Moby dick, Martin Guerre, batboy (even though it has a life in student productions), the beautiful game, lend me a tenor, gone with the wind, drowsy chaperone in UK. Didn't even get off the ground so technically not a flop but I'd give a right arm to see Jim Steinmans Batman musical! I'd also love to see the current broadway flop Hands on a Hardbody come over to the UK where I think it would do better!