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#298832 The Ongoing Wicked Discussion Thread

Posted theatre_kirsty on 30 March 2014 - 07:59 PM

I saw Helen and she was very much the posh toff girl. She wasn't at all like Dianne, I found Dianne to be very shrill and shrieky which Helen wasn't .  I can't remember too much actually and it was 7 years ago but I remember seeing her and then the next time I went Dianne had taken over and I just couldn't take to her Glinda at all

#298831 The Ongoing Wicked Discussion Thread

Posted mrtheatre123 on 30 March 2014 - 07:58 PM

For me Helen was one of the best comedic Glindas, I saw her with Kerry Eliis and thought they worked great, Helen defenitly was stronger with the comedy than vocals but still a great voice, she is one of my favorite Glindas!

#298797 Water Babies - Leicester Curve

Posted andy614 on 30 March 2014 - 05:33 PM


#298769 X Factor The Musical To The Palladium

Posted danieldabell on 30 March 2014 - 02:30 PM

View PostMrs Lovett, on 30 March 2014 - 02:19 PM, said:

Semantically speaking, if everyone's entitled to their own oppinion then u have to accept MrBarnabys, even if it was the case that his oppinion was the only true oppinion, coz that's his oppinion

Semantically speaking you'd have to stick to the definition of the words used, such as OPINION, opinion not being the same as fact. You can't have an "opinion" that yours is the only "opinion" as you've completely misinterpreted the word you're using and have ended up in a very strange paradox! So whilst I fully accept the opinion that somebody doesn't like a show or thinks it's rubbish, you can't accept somebody's opinion that theirs is the only opinion! Unless you've redefined OPINION with your new spelling?

#298709 Matilda Musical

Posted sam22 on 30 March 2014 - 01:34 AM

It's the young person price I think for under 25s

#298703 X Factor The Musical To The Palladium

Posted Radio on 29 March 2014 - 11:35 PM

Saw the show today at the matinee.  My view depends how you look at it has a variety comedy it's hilarious & well done as a musical the songs are not overly rememberable & the plot is disjointed. There is no doubt however that it is a fun night if your just looking for a laugh without much thought into it. Cynthia Erivo's voice is superb, never seen her before so want sure what to expect.

The hunchback however is awful it makes no sense and just ruins what little plot is there. It needs cut & yes it would need a rewrite for a new character or simply why not let the heroine win the show. The alien I felt fitted in fine although bonkers. The set is the star of the show though.

The stalls was three quarters full and the upper circle was closed.

Run time was

Start 14:01
Interval 15:07
Second act 15:31
Finish 16:39

#298691 X Factor The Musical To The Palladium

Posted Kathryn2 on 29 March 2014 - 11:03 PM

Shall we get back to the musical itself?

Someone a little while ago said the disliked Chenice's final number, Xtasy, and also the Hunchback's rap song. I took the latter to be an Eminem reference and the former to be a take on Beyonce's oeuvre. I am guessing that one of the reasons many musical theatre lovers are not enjoying those two is that they're fundamentally takes on pop songs, not MT songs. Most pop songs are far more bland and repetitive than MT songs, after all, with no real narrative content.

I enjoyed both of them for their refential qualities and how well they are performed, but they certainly pale in comparison compared with most good MT songs.

#298539 X Factor The Musical To The Palladium

Posted danieldabell on 29 March 2014 - 01:13 AM

View PostMrBarnaby, on 29 March 2014 - 01:02 AM, said:

Daniel.., care to attack one of the 700 other people here who think it's crap beyond me? Or want to just single my comments out every.. Single... time?  Fine by me.
How exactly does what I say in any way relate to my 'Ego' ?

That level of intelligence is evident in your defence of it. Go and kiss the steps of the palladium if you love it so much. Your clearly very easily entertained and I pride myself on having higher standards.

You absolutely miss the point of what I said, which I predicted you would. I haven't even seen this show yet so am not defending the show or theatre from anything. I'm not commenting on your dislike of the show and the reason I'm focussing on your comments and not others' is because everyone is entitled to their opinion. The difference is you don't seem to think that. You appear to not accept that other people can have a legitimate alternative opinion and it's frustrating to read as you even think something is suspicious as critics have a different opinion to yours. Your last comment about higher standards sums the snobbery up perfectly. There is every chance I might not like the show but it wouldn't stop me accepting the fact others do.
I thought I'd fairly simplistically explained why I referred to ego, as I've said a little more about here. It's not an insult or a colloquial use relating to big headedness, I'm referring to the psychological aspect of it in not being able to accept other opinions outside of your own, so much so you label it as suspicious.
I rather enjoy a lot of your comments on the forums and agree in other areas, but it is evident here that it is a case of only you can have an opinion which is the right one to have.

#298500 The Bodyguard

Posted seanmcdona on 28 March 2014 - 08:37 PM

I'm really excited to hear this! I think it's a great decision by the producers! I would never have called myself a 'fan' of hers but hearing that she's been casted has made me very excited to see her this June! and if this performance is anything to go by then I can't wait Do I think she'll be ground breaking? No, but I do think she'll do all the songs justice and at the end of the day that's mainly what I'm personally coming for!

#298520 X Factor The Musical To The Palladium

Posted Mark_E on 28 March 2014 - 10:55 PM

Saw the show tonight:
It starts off great. If that's not entertainment is a really strong opening number. The first couple of numbers are very good, I even quite liked the supermarket scene and I was enjoying it until...
The Hunchback....
My word, such a diabolical number. Why? It was going so well!!!
Cynthia nailed I can't sing, great song, and what a voice!
One bit I hated was her audition. Why make it a cliche? There just wasn't any point and it would have been an ideal song opportunity.

Act two.... So it plods along a bit (I didn't like Simons "love" song) and then Fabulous really is quite fabulous! It then just kind of tries to tie up the plot rushes towards the end. I liked the "Jedward" spoof. Thought the song Chenice sings "Xtasy" I guess you could call it, wasn't great. Sure Cynthia nails it but it's just an awful and forgettable song...
And then again, oh dear, the hunchback is back again. It really annoyed me. Again just WHY?
I actually loved the Cowell alien reveal, it was totally right for the mood of this show.

Quite a lot of the jokes throughout falling flat. Upper circle closed off - not great for a Friday night just after opening. I think this show would have benefited from a smaller theatre.

Hope Simon Cowell has taken note of Cynthia and gets her some mainstream publicity. Who needs programmes like The X Factor with all that talent right infront of you to be honest! That girl can SING!

#298513 X Factor The Musical To The Palladium

Posted danieldabell on 28 March 2014 - 09:49 PM

View PostMrBarnaby, on 28 March 2014 - 05:29 PM, said:

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the critics were 'encouraged' to give good reviews. It's a shambolic embarrassing show so something suspicious is clearly going on. It won't save it though.

You really do have an ego problem. You seem to think like a toddler, that no one exists outside of your inner world and everyone must think the same as you. Something suspicious must be going on because other people think something different to you?! That's almost sociopathic. To be honest I'm not sure why I'm even writing this as you won't be able to accept it or incorporate it into your thinking as it differs from your opinion. Any negative comments I've read about this show all have a very snobbish slant to them about a certain class of theatre which I think is a ridiculous way to view theatre.

#298525 Dirty Rotten Scoundrels

Posted Radio on 28 March 2014 - 11:08 PM

Was very impressed with this tonight. It's very slick and very funny. Yes Lindsay just plays Lindsay but personally felt it fitted the part well.

All i can say is well done Jerry Mitchell.

#298440 Dirty Rotten Scoundrels

Posted Ryan on 28 March 2014 - 01:39 PM

View Postfreckles, on 28 March 2014 - 11:48 AM, said:

I must admit to thinking that Robert Lindsay was just playing Robert Lindsay but I thought everyone else was top notch.

I agree but he does it so well so why not.  I know he has his critics but i thought he was terrific.  He really made it all look so natural and effortless (but not lazy) and as though he was just making it all up on the spot (but in a good way).

#298442 X Factor The Musical To The Palladium

Posted Eastender on 28 March 2014 - 01:46 PM

I wonder why this bloke Tim Walker has said he will not review the show. If it is because he considers it 'low culture' and beneath someone like him then he can only be described as a complete tosser. I bet he likes Sondheim.

#298444 The Bodyguard

Posted Radio on 28 March 2014 - 01:49 PM

Burke will sell tickets and will Also attract a younger audience than Knight so its a good move by the producers.